9.3.07

Albuquerque, NM june 21st 2003 (part 2)

B: I’m sorry about the expression but when I see you on stage I feel like you’re having orgasms when you play your guitar and I think it is amazing how you keep on studying and studying music.

JF: Yeah well I guess at a certain point I practiced guitar so much when I was a kid, at a certain point I feel like to practice and to get better became something that was effortless, it didn’t feel like something that was a job or it didn’t feel like something that was a chore ever since I first started getting better at learning songs and stuff, practicing is as flowing of a thing as I guess sex is supposed to be you know, for me, I get more of those kind of feelings from playing guitar than I do in real life, like, at a certain point I became so united with the guitar that I feel like that’s… me and my relationship with music that’s the kind of sexual activity that I can really enjoy, you know. In real life there’s so much other stuff attached, it doesn’t even come close to how it is when playing music, so I guess that’s why it looks like that because that is what it is in a lot of ways.

B: How do you picture yourself ten years from now?
JF: Ten years from now?
B: ok, five
JF(smiling beautifully): Ten’s ok , I’m fine with ten.
B: Ok maybe that’s too far away because I don’t even see myself then.
JF: I can’t say though, like I don’t really have any answer for that . Some times I have images of myself but it’s really hard to say, I know what I’m gonna be doing tomorrow and I know what I’m gonna be doing the day after that, even that is kind of a stretch, but it’s too hard to say as far as… ‘cause you’re always wrong anyways when you say stuff like that , I notice whenever I tell people what my plans are for August…
B: Yeah, tomorrow you were flying to DC and now you’re not.
JF: Yeah, yesterday I would have told you I was going to DC and now I’m not, so it seems like the degree towards that is just even more so when you’re talking about five years from now or ten years from now, I really can’t say and I’m not a person who has goals either, you know , I have projects, you know, right now I know I wanna record all these songs that I’ve written up till now and all the ones that I really like, I really wanna do that, I really wanna put together a studio so I can not have to pay for studio time and studios and I can have my own place, that’s a project that I have before me, but I have no idea and I wouldn’t want to put any kind of demand on ten years from now, I’m not one of those people who says “I wanna have this amount of money in this time” …
B: I was more wondering if you saw yourself still making music and do what you’re doing now
JF: It’s very hard for me to imagine being alive without making music, it’s hard for me to imagine enjoying life without making music, anything’s possible but it seems very unlikely to me and I just hope that as I get older I can get music that’s suitable for whatever period of my life it is, like, if I’m 60 years old I wanna be making music that’s much more abstract and I don’t want to be one of these guys, you know, trying to pretend like they’re 20 when they’re 60, you know what I mean, I don’t want to go for some time with a false image of myself , I wanna be making music that’s more abstract and that’s not pop music, I don’t see myself making pop music at 60 unless I’m a producer or something, even then it’s hard to imagine .For me the idea of slowing down it’s kind of… and I know that happens to people when they get older.
B: I know that you’ve been jamming together with the guys from the Mars Volta, there seems to be a great chemistry there. I heard you were hanging out together in Stockholm.
JF: Yeah well, they’re my friends , in the last year or so I became really good friends with Omar the guitarist of the Mars Volta, we have those moments together that only two guys with guitars can understand, you know, where we’re up till 5 or 6 in the morning talking and playing our guitars together and stuff and we’ve developed a closeness that’s based around that so, he sometimes comes on stage with us and I went up on stage with them in New York at the last show that they did with Jeremy who died. I’m very sad about Jeremy dying, he was a great artist to me, his role in the band was a feminine role and then every instrument and Cedric’s vocals were going through him and he was playing more a feminine role and the band… he did it from out in the audience and nobody was looking at him, they look at the stage and himself was looking at the stage and it was kind of a thankless job in a way but some people do well in not having to be in the spotlight anyways but I’m sad about him being dead but I’m glad that they’re gonna go on playing and stuff. But it was fun we got to do two tours with them when Jeremy was alive and that was a lot of fun and I’m looking forward to seeing Omar when I get home. He wants to show me this movie…
B: Which movie?
JF: El popo, is that what it’s called?
B: El popo?
JF: Topo, el topo!
B: Ah, El topo. He wants to show you that?
JF: Yeah
B: Why?
JF(grinning): He loves it, he thinks it’s great.
B: Have you seen any other Mexican films?
JF: Yeah, I’m a big fan of Luis Buñuel, so I’ve seen all his Mexican movies that he made.
B: He’s Spanish though
JF: Yeah he’s Spanish but he made movies in Mexico for a long time, he didn’t make many movies in Spain and he made a few in France but mostly he made movies in Mexico and I like those movies a lot.
B: which ones?
JF: I’ve seen Nazarin,
He tries to remember the name of another of his films…
JF: I’m spacing out, I can’t remember…
B: Have you seen the one he did with Dali?
JF: Un chien Andalou? Andalutian dog ?
B: Did you like it?
JF: I think it’s great, yeah.
B : I really enjoyed that movie.
JF: (still trying to remember)… I like that movie a lot, I have a poster in my house, but I must be tired, I can’t believe I’m spacing out on the name…
B: you don’t remember.
JF: It’s just, I’m very tired, I’m drawing a blank and the camera isn’t making it easier.
B: You don’t like cameras?
JF: No, when you’re stuck though, and you’re having a blank and you know that everybody is watching and you look like an asshole ‘cause you mention the director and you can’t name his movies, right?
We laugh
B: It’s really hot now. Are you warm?
JF: I’m ok… (smiling beautifully) Susana, El Bruto.
B: huh?
JF: I’m just naming Buñuel movies.
I laugh
How do you feel when you go on stage and all these people are just going wild?
Good, it feels good. I used to really separate myself from the audience, you know, I used to like, to turn my back and face my amplifier or face Chad and just closed my eyes get into my head. I still do those thing but for me what’s become more important than that is the connection and the exchange with the audience, you know, playing for the audience, trying to let them know that I’m trying to send some good feelings and some love in their direction and stuff, and they’re reciprocating, the feelings that I get from them are very important to me, you know. When I first joined the band it seemed that it was very much a matter of impressing the audience and I was 18 years old and I was thinking more in terms of impressing the audience which is really a dead end because technically nobody really wants to watch somebody who’s trying to prove something to them or…the best kind of state of mind you can be in as a performer is to not really care what anybody thinks of you , you know, and to do what’s best for yourself, so then I had the period of only playing for myself and nobody else and I would say I learnt a lot during that period but you can’t really go on doing that for that long because it gets boring because when you’re the only person that you’re playing for, you become similar to a tree falling in the woods with no one around to hear it, your playing doesn’t actually exist in the world the way that music… it’s almost like your music is half empty at that point and I felt myself getting more and more emptied out by only playing to myself and that was when I quit the band, after that, that was my solution to that .And since I joined again, fans have been so nice with sort of accepting me back, making me feel like there’s a place for me in the world and make me feel like people care about me and that’s inspired me to gradually feel more and more like they’re as much of a part of the music as we are, you know, and when I go out and when I hear the noise they make or when I see the smile on their faces it makes me feel so happy inside and I just wanna give every bit of energy I have inside me to them. It really has become an important part of my life to have that exchange with an audience, of really giving myself to them and really getting what they give back to me, you know, so yeah, it’s a good feeling.

1 comment:

Anonymous said...

i want to be like him when i grow up.